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Xx_Sorin_xX · Apr 08, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Assuming you really meant to be sarcastic and just did a terrible job of it, sarcasm is clever and generally has a point. Reference the archetypal work "A Modest Proposal" by Jonathan Swift or similarly useful examples before attempting it again, as what you posted, regardless of your intent, was nothing more than childish mockery.

i have no point to make in this thread, mainly because its a QQ thread. I just want to say taht "A Modest Proposal" is an amazingly witty and sarcastic short story. Go read it.

jimme · Apr 08, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

/notsigned

You wan't to make escape worse than Zojun's Haste/Dodge ?

Tyla · Apr 08, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And that you become completely worthless when facing any other build.

Point still stands though, the blocking percentage isn't overpowered. Escape isn't what makes Sway good, and if you think it is, then you clearly just copied the build off the wiki without any thought. Running a build and knowing WHY it works are two different things, because those who know WHY will be able to make new builds after nerfs happen.

Besides, the R/D should be the LAST thing you attack. There survivability is a moot point. You should be taking out the N/Rt healers first.

If you need pressure on the rangers, your team should have some spell damage dealers as well as some anti melee shutdown (aegis, wards, guardian, blind, necro hexes).

You just taught me a valuable lesson...
I wish I wasn't so quick to the point...

Orange Milk · Apr 08, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Corpselooter
You do realize taking a complete skillbar to counter a build means that the build is completely imbalanced, right? /sigh

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
And that you become completely worthless when facing any other build

Never knew Anti-melee necros were ONLY for countering R/D's, I kinda figure they work against other forms of melee too, like guys with swords or hammers aswell as spear chuckers and bow users.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
If you need pressure on the rangers, your team should have some spell damage dealers as well as some anti melee shutdown (aegis, wards, guardian, blind, necro hexes).

OH, wait, I see you agree already.

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
P.S -- I would rather see degenerate builds die. Not "counter yay".

If people started running counters instead of the "degenerat" build it would die.

Randvek · Apr 08, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Gogo Gadget Threadlock!

Tyla · Apr 08, 2008, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

If people started running counters instead of the "degenerat" build it would die.

Put it this way, you're claiming that your counters make the degenerate build die, which yes, counters negate things happening, but then counters to those counters happen.

I suppose because a B-Surger / Necro debuffer is around Warriors, Dervs, Paragons and Rangers would die aswell?

warcrap · Apr 08, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

if anybody should be nerfed it should be either the dervish or assasins.

Orange Milk · Apr 08, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari
you're claiming that your counters make the degenerate build die, which yes, counters negate things happening, but then counters to those counters happen.

Yes they do, and then another counter to that counter which mean the meta constantly evolves and changes without the need for OMGHAXZORS NEED NERFS NOWZ!!!

But you see peole are lazy and run whats currently working instead of creating what currently counters that, why think when theres Wiki, right?

Div · Apr 08, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

1) Counters are harder to run than just running sway to beat most teams
2) Most people that still HA are horrible players and like to run easy stuff

Putting 1 and 2 together, you see why people don't run counters.

And really, unless you run hex overload, one SS necro won't do shit against expel.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 08, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

but i like my free fame when i fight an SWAY team with legoway.
/not signed for SWAY farmers inc.

Arkantos · Apr 08, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

This is what happens when people put skill balance threads in Sardelac. You get a bunch of people discussing the subject despite having no experience in the context that the skill is used.

Exactly the reason why this most of this thread has derailed into crap, and the reason why I'm closing it.